Comments for Code Penguin

Comment on Don’t forget the other kind of WTF by Ludo

Ludo — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:16:08 +0000

Maybe it’s just that php programmer are as good as their language.

Comment on chmod 777 is evil by Laurent

Laurent — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:43:49 +0000

Good news: PHP 5.3.3 is out, and includes the FPM SAPI, which will make all this easier.

Comment on chmod 777 is evil by Florian

Florian — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:41:48 +0000

So true !

Thanks for giving good alternasolutions.

Comment on Why I wouldn’t use Symfony for a new project by Laurent

Laurent — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:06:51 +0000

IIRC, CakePHP’s ORM is quite limited.

.NET? OK, the troll got too far.

Comment on Why I wouldn’t use Symfony for a new project by Abdulhakim Haliru

Abdulhakim Haliru — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:57:36 +0000

I personally had tried out Symfony very long time ago. at the moment, I use CakePHP and i like its features and ease of use especially its ORM feature. Hence I would suggest anyone interested in an Open Source PHP framework tries out CakePHP (www.cakephp.org).

I have always been Doubling my PHP and DotNet(VB,C#

Comment on Why I wouldn’t use Symfony for a new project by Fabrice Bernhard

Fabrice Bernhard — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:43:16 +0000

Since some have wondered if the former Fabrice was me, (Fabrice Bernhard), I post here to confirm that he’s not me. Especially because I disagree.

I think it is necessary to protect the symfony brand. Imagine if Walmart wanted to call their new Yogurts Symfony and bought all the related domain-names ? Symfony developers would be hurt as much as Sensio.

Concerning the sensio guru website which did shock some developers in the community, I do not see how it hurts any of us, on the contrary ! If Sensio is able to charge as much, and you think you have more experience than their “symfony experts”… now you can use this website as a proof that you deserve more than 350€ a day ! And you can thank Sensio for that.

As for maintaining the 1.0 version, Theodo has discreetly started such a task, with http://github.com/theodo/symfony1.0-backports Please feel free to contribute !

Comment on Why I wouldn’t use Symfony for a new project by Laurent

Laurent — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:36:03 +0000

Many open-source project have copyrighted names: Linux, Firefox, etc.

You are free to copy Symfony and name it Cacofony or something!

Comment on Why I wouldn’t use Symfony for a new project by fabien

fabien — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:57:59 +0000

There is no need to maintain 1.1 as 1.2 is totally BC. If you want to take care of 1.0 though, send me an email.

Comment on Why I wouldn’t use Symfony for a new project by Fabrice

Fabrice — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:55:46 +0000

Talking about decoupling, I think Symfony is probably a bit too coupled with Sensio, maybe with Fabien. Look at every single footer page of the official project website:

I’ve always wondered what does this exactly means. All I know is if you want to book adwords with the word “symfony” in it, you have to request explicit permission to Fabien. I think it’s totally unfair regarding healthy competition and companies who try to make money out of services around an open-source project like Symfony. Remember that without any user, a framework simply doesn’t exist.

And what’s the point with the “get a Symfony guru” for 3k€ a day? who can afford such a price nowadays? and no mention of the “Symfony expert” which can be rent for 1.5k€/day because “he worked more than one year for SensioLabs on professional projects”. One year? must be kidding, probably.

Sorry for the rant but I think that Sensio is taking the wrong communication path at this very moment.

Comment on Why I wouldn’t use Symfony for a new project by Laurent

Laurent — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:54:50 +0000

Symfony 1.2 projects are easy to upgrade, contrarily to 1.0 or 1.1 (though I don’t have much experience with 1.1).